I often forget how strong resistance can be within a person until I come face to face with a reflection of myself who is absolutely devoted to self-definition and structure as a means of security. Recently this particular type of reflection has come into my reality and I decided to see if this resistance would end through logical analysis or would simply resist harder. Not surprisingly, the resistance became stronger as the conversation continued.
If you haven’t read my What If and Devoutly Religious posts than I would highly suggest that you visit the comments of both to see how this conversation has progressed.
The thing that really amazes me is that, during the conversation, the reflection I was talking to was actually using quotes that hurt their argument rather than helped it. Often I was accused of contradicting the bible but they were actually contradicting themselves. Asking where my contradictions might be didn’t help because that question was never answered (either because they had no solid answer or they had no understanding of the word “contradict”).
A brief example of one of these contradictions is assertion that this person does not believe they are separate from God…they simply believe that God is above them. It seems to me that “Above” requires something to be “below” and POOF you have a separation.
I have often said in this blog that it is very easy to hold onto a belief, a symbol, an idea, or even a label out of fear. This fear is always a fear of the unknown but manifests in many ways…fear of being alone, fear of not having support, fear of not having definition, even just fear of what life would be like without having heaven to hope for afterwards. I say this, not out of judgement, but out of the awareness that I have and do try to use these fears myself to justify holding onto something.
If you’re not afraid, you have no need to hold onto something that makes you feel safe…like the concept of Heaven after death. This point, however, did not go over very well. In fact, this point was always met with outright defensiveness.
I feel sorry that you think this is all there is to life. How sad. This is heaven and earth you said. This earth is just one piece of our existence for those who trust and believe in Jesus. I would kill myself if I believed that because what would be the point of this life? (Direct Quote from the conversation)
It was as though the idea that The Mind could actually come up with Wisdom on its own was absolutely preposterous….Almost ridiculous. Obviously something must back up what I was saying…otherwise it isn’t worth thinking about.
Once again…fear of not having support.
What do you base your beliefs on–your own thought? Well you got those from somewhere, so aren’t they opinions too? I base my belief on a book that has been around for thousands of years. It has failed to be discredited. It still exists for thousands to read. Why do you think that is so?
Now…at no point had I said the Bible wasn’t valid. I was simply trying to point out that it is not the only source of God’s Word. There are many books throughout history and, if God is the creator of all, it would seem to make sense that all of them were God’s Word in one sense or another. Once again…outright refusal. This conversation about the validity of the Bible went on for some time on her own blog. If you would like to check it out, please visit http://charlottestyle.blogspot.com/2007/04/validity-of-they-bible.html
Update : This post has now been deleted due to the author not liking her own words.
Mark from the Naked Soul blog jumped in as well with a very well worded comment that was also immediately ignored.
The next tactic of resistance was, of course, attacking my vocabulary. I was accused of double-speak at one point and even more often I was accused of not using words properly. I would like to take this opportunity to define the words I apparently misused from an online dictionary.
Wisdom : accumulated knowledge or erudition or enlightenment
Enlightenment : education that results in understanding
By the way, wisdom is not knowing yourself.
Faith : a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
The Word of God is the Bible. If you actually heard from God, I’d know it from scripture.
Believing : the cognitive process that leads to convictions
I am at least honest in saying where I get my beliefs from–a book that still exists even though many people have tried to get rid of it and have failed miserably!
I would like you to note here that all the text in black is a direct contradiction to the definitions above them. Wisdom is accumulated knowledge or enlightenment and enlightenment, ultimately, is understanding the self. Faith is a strong belief in a consciousness/supernatural force that is responsible for reality and how it works…not belief in a book. Believing is the cognitive process (thoughts/insights/analysis) that leads to convictions…it is not simply believing what someone else has written.
At several points during this conversation the other person would try to get out of explaining her views by saying things like “I don’t want to split hairs” or “I don’t have time now to explain what he meant and I feel it would be wasted anyway. ” This would normally be the point where I would end the conversation and let that reflection think whatever they would like to think…in this case the circumstances were a little different.
What I haven’t mentioned here is that I was not the originator of this conversation. In fact, the very first comment exchanged was on my Heaven & Hell post. Being told that I am “choosing death” is not exactly the friendliest way to begin a conversation….I wasn’t particularly offended by the comment, but I definitely felt that a conversation might be both enlightening and entertaining. Realize here that the other party repeatedly told me that she was “trying to understand my views”…so naturally I was happy to expand on them. What I often forget is that people tend to say things they really don’t mean…but saying those things is supposed to convince me that they mean it.
In the end I was told that “God didn’t tell me to talk to you” despite her previous declaration of belief that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. This is where I truly had to smile. First I was told that I limit God by making God an equal to myself (considering that I think I am “God” and that I myself am an unlimited entity this really didn’t make much sense). Secondly she tells me that God didn’t make her talk to me…as though somehow this particular conversation somehow escaped the infinite matrix that is creation. I pointed this out of course and was promptly told “To clarify, when I said that God didn’t tell me to talk to you–what I meant was that I chose to talk to you.”
All of our choices are also directly a part of “God’s” plan. To say that our choices are somehow separate from what is supposed to happen is not only limiting God, it makes no sense at all.
Unfortunately this conversation ended with her getting quite angry and calling me “coo coo”. I would be the first one to admit that I’m “coo coo”, so this really isn’t an issue. The conversation was then promptly closed to any new comments.
So what is the point to all of this? It’s a reminder…the part of myself that is resistant has been resistant since the beginning. This side of the duality has existed since duality was born from unity and will not waiver until the very end. Overall I’m quite happy that the conversation happened…not because I’ve upset someone (once again, I didn’t start the conversation to begin with…so that choice was hers), but because it reminded me that no matter how straightforward a message might be…it is always open to interpretation. And more importantly, that interpretation is based upon our own fears. We cannot see what we are afraid to see.
Here and Now, Responsibility, Unity….these things can all be feared quite easily. This is why even Jesus spoke in parables…those who would understand did, those who did not would be too confused to get angry.
“And the disciples came and said to him ‘Why do You speak in parables?’
Jesus answered them ‘To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted.’”
The parable of the seeds is nothing more than a way of saying that our words will be understood in different ways. Either disregarded, absolutely resisted, somewhat understood and a cause of temporary joy, or absolutely realized in the most profound way possible.
“Hear then the parable of the sower.
When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom the seen was sown beside the road.
The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy;
yet he has no firm root in himself, but is only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he falls away.
And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who indeed bears fruit and brings forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirty.”
Words can be interpreted in many ways…the seeds can only be sown in the proper perception, otherwise they do not grow.